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30th Jul 2025

This Breathing Method CALMS Your Mind INSTANTLY! (Anxiety, ADHD & Flow State)

In this episode, we are joined by Raj Khedun, founder of 'Keep Fit Kingdom' and creator of the '3:3 Metaverse Breathing Method.' Raj dives deep into the essence of yoga, the science of breathwork, and the pursuit of flow state, offering practical insights for mental wellness, emotional balance, and personal transformation.

Raj redefines yoga as a path to union with 'the source'—be it infinite intelligence, cosmic consciousness, or divine energy—rooted in Vedantic traditions. He explains how our breath influences brain chemistry through the vagus nerve and parasympathetic nervous system. By balancing nostril flow, Raj’s approach harmonises brain hemispheres, fostering mental clarity, focus, and calm, with profound benefits for ADHD, autism, insomnia, anxiety relief, and stress management. The discussion explores how his method activates neurotransmitters like endorphins, dopamine, serotonin, and anandamide (the bliss molecule), enabling rapid access to flow state—a natural state of effortless awareness and inner peace—challenging the notion that flow requires thousands of hours of practice.

Raj connects these practices to enlightenment, described as illuminating the brain’s neural potential, and critiques the 'grind' culture of Western societies, advocating for holistic health through mindfulness practices. He shares how his work with organisations like the NHS and Oracle, as well as individuals, aims to empower 1 billion people to tap into their hidden potential, enhancing cognitive function, resilience, and emotional well-being. This episode is a must-listen for those seeking self-improvement, spiritual growth, and tools to overcome burnout, mental chatter, and neurodiverse challenges.

KEY TAKEAWAYS:

  • Raj Kedden's journey from a curious three-year-old fascinated by dinosaurs and planets to a yoga expert is super inspiring and shows how early interests can shape our paths in life.
  • The significance of breath in yoga is often overlooked; it's not just about air, but light, electricity, and magnetism that keep us alive and vibrant, which is pretty mind-blowing.
  • Yoga is all about union, connecting to your source, and aligning your body, mind, and spirit to tap into your full potential and improve overall well-being.
  • Raj emphasises that love is a powerful force that connects us all and helps us evolve, and without it, we might feel lost or disconnected from our true selves.
  • The Metaverse Breathing Method aims to harness breathing techniques to help people with various mental afflictions, showing that breath is not just vital, but a key to emotional and mental health.
  • Understanding your electromagnetic energy and how it interacts with others can really change your perspective on relationships and personal energies – it's all about those vibes!
Transcript
Speaker A:

Foreign.

Speaker B:

Welcome back to another episode of the Breaking Point podcast.

Speaker B:

Today we are here with Raj Kedden.

Speaker B:

Raj is the founder of Metaverse Breathing Method, among, among many other things.

Speaker B:

And we're going to have a chat today about yoga breathing, obviously, and what, what he's up to and things like that.

Speaker B:

So, Raj, why don't you tell people, you can either give them a brief background on you or you can go straight into what it is that you're doing at the moment.

Speaker B:

Which one do you want to start with?

Speaker C:

Abso.

Speaker C:

So do we have time for a little bit of backstory Genesis?

Speaker B:

Absolutely, yeah.

Speaker C:

Okay.

Speaker C:

So I find that always helps give the context and there's, there's a kind of humorous and funny aspect to this as well, which I hope people can relate to in terms of when you're a child growing up.

Speaker C:

So it starts off when I was three years old and I mean, yeah, three years old.

Speaker C:

My mother takes me to nursery where I'm born in London for the first time and we're pottering around the library as you do, and I pick up two books from the bookshelf as a three year old.

Speaker C:

One of them is on dinosaurs and the other one is on planets.

Speaker B:

Standard.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

And for whatever reason, these images have imprinted themselves on my subconscious mind throughout my entire life.

Speaker C:

These themes have guided me more than my ordinary conventional education ever did.

Speaker C:

So my questions were, as a youngster was how do these animals evolve from one species to another?

Speaker C:

How does that happen?

Speaker C:

Like, is there a process?

Speaker C:

I can't see it.

Speaker C:

Is it invisible?

Speaker C:

What's going on?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

And for me, this was just an all consuming kind of interest and intrigue.

Speaker C:

I just, it was like a mysterious puzzle that I just had to kind of work out, you know, in.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

So.

Speaker C:

And then what it really came down to was evolution of human beings.

Speaker C:

How do we evolve as humans?

Speaker C:

How do we go from, you know, small minded to now very intelligent or not being creative to now being super creative, or how do you make leaps in your evolution and is that a process that you can control?

Speaker C:

So that's where the dinosaurs element in evolution came in.

Speaker C:

Planets was about.

Speaker C:

There's all these amazing planets in our solar system.

Speaker C:

We've got the universe in the universe.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

But even just our solar system itself.

Speaker C:

Yeah, we've got, you know, Jupiter, we've got Saturn, we've got Mars, we've got Mercury, Venus, all these things.

Speaker C:

But what are they actually doing there?

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker C:

So when, when we go to YouTube, we can look at Mars, because I have robots, you know, on Mars, Exploring the surface of Mars and So on last 10 or 12 years, I think the robots have been, you know, crawling around there and they've not found.

Speaker C:

You can see the red sky and the red rock, but you can't.

Speaker C:

There's no water, there's no plants, there's no skeletal remains of any kind.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

So why, what is that planet doing there if it's empty?

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker C:

Then all these questions begin to arise.

Speaker C:

What, what's going on here?

Speaker C:

Something they're fixed in their perfect, you know, calculated orbits.

Speaker C:

They've been there doing that for the last 4 billion years.

Speaker C:

And do we actually know how they impact nature?

Speaker C:

How do they impact human beings?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker C:

So that was my whole kind of overview of like.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I want to try to work these things out in the course of my life.

Speaker B:

Sorry, that what you're doing.

Speaker C:

That's the direction I'm moving in.

Speaker C:

Yeah, for sure.

Speaker B:

So three year old picking up books in a library has gone on to.

Speaker B:

I mean I'm not surprised that that's, they've.

Speaker B:

That's potentially been more influential than the education system because the education system isn't very influent.

Speaker B:

Inspiring in any case.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And then how did you so, but how did you come across.

Speaker B:

One of the questions I wanted to talk about is like yoga because you briefly mentioned it in our pre, pre podcast chat.

Speaker B:

And you.

Speaker B:

I'd like to you to delve into the influence of yoga beyond like the sort of typical layman's perspective of what yoga is of just like stretches and you know, breathing, which is obviously an important aspect of it.

Speaker B:

But you could delve a bit deeper into the, the science I suppose, and the reasoning behind people do what they do in the context of yoga.

Speaker C:

I mean I've got a bit of a quite a unique angle to this.

Speaker C:

Unique.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker C:

I was 18 years old and my mother takes me to India.

Speaker C:

Not just for a tourist trip.

Speaker C:

No, it's a scene, an avatar.

Speaker C:

And you say what?

Speaker B:

What Cameron?

Speaker C:

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker C:

As per James Cameron's film.

Speaker C:

And I see this avatar and I'm.

Speaker B:

Like, what would you mean by avatar?

Speaker C:

Satya Sai Baba.

Speaker B:

He's a, he's a.

Speaker C:

An avatar is a being, a fully evolved enlightened being.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker C:

So he has all the powers that you could imagine.

Speaker C:

I know it sounds outlandish and crazy, but it's a very part and parcel of India's tradition of yoga.

Speaker C:

You know, all these things.

Speaker C:

Like we have Avatar, Last Airbender.

Speaker C:

Airbender and we have James Cannon with his avatar.

Speaker C:

You have to Understand?

Speaker C:

What does the word avatar mean?

Speaker C:

Avatar comes from the Sanskrit word incarnation or divine power coming into physical incarnation.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker C:

That's what the meaning has always been and it always will be.

Speaker C:

And India has had a tradition of avatars throughout millennium.

Speaker C:

So I had to concede that I didn't know anything.

Speaker C:

When I was 18 years old, thinking that I'm come from materialistic London, I have everything.

Speaker C:

And actually I go there and I realized I don't know anything.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

I don't know where I've come from.

Speaker C:

I don't know why I'm here.

Speaker C:

I don't know where I'm going.

Speaker C:

I don't know how this planet was made, really.

Speaker C:

I don't know anything.

Speaker C:

So seeing the Avatar kind of handed it back to me.

Speaker C:

Handed my backside to me in a sense that.

Speaker C:

Don't be arrogant.

Speaker C:

Yeah, you've got to be humble.

Speaker C:

If you really want to learn and have wisdom, you've got to be humble.

Speaker C:

And I didn't like that.

Speaker C:

I really didn't like that lesson.

Speaker B:

It's hard to take.

Speaker B:

It's a very hard lesson to learn.

Speaker C:

It's the hardest thing to learn.

Speaker C:

And then bit by bit, you begin to understand and appreciate that.

Speaker C:

Look, you didn't create your own brain, okay.

Speaker C:

Didn't create your heart and lungs.

Speaker C:

There's some higher intelligence that has done this for you.

Speaker C:

So try to learn as much literally.

Speaker B:

And when you say you saw, what was his name again?

Speaker B:

So what does that mean when you.

Speaker C:

Say you saw his presence, his physical presence?

Speaker B:

So you physically saw with your eyes?

Speaker B:

It wasn't like a metaphorical saw?

Speaker C:

No, no, no.

Speaker C:

I was there in his presence.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker C:

You can look him up on YouTube.

Speaker C:

There's plenty of footage of him.

Speaker A:

Damn.

Speaker B:

And he is a symbolic representation of what?

Speaker B:

Ultimate power or ultimate presence, ultimate evolution.

Speaker C:

Of what a human will attain eventually.

Speaker B:

Okay, and so what does he represent in India?

Speaker B:

You know, obviously from a more like cultural, social level.

Speaker B:

What do people think of when they.

Speaker B:

When they think of him?

Speaker C:

Well, if anyone been to India, they'll understand that it's a country steeped in mysticism, yoga, religion.

Speaker C:

It's a melting pot of all religions, and it goes way further than that.

Speaker C:

Cosmology, astrology, all these sciences, the word nirvana itself, the word guru, these common words all come from India.

Speaker C:

So when you see an avatar like this of the highest order, he's a manifestation of unconditional pure love.

Speaker C:

And beings of unconditional pure love, they have no agenda for you apart from your own evolution.

Speaker C:

So they do not hold secrets back like the governments might, because they don't want you to be strong, they don't want you to be powerful.

Speaker C:

Avatars have no such agenda.

Speaker C:

They are like, I don't want you to suffer.

Speaker C:

I need you to understand your own power and guide it in a.

Speaker C:

In a constructive way to help humanity.

Speaker B:

We often.

Speaker B:

The amount of like references to unconditional love across the board from like human, various human endeavors.

Speaker B:

What do you think it is about?

Speaker B:

Why is love such a powerful force?

Speaker B:

I mean, it's kind of.

Speaker B:

It kind of seems obvious, but on a non obvious level, why do you think love is so influential?

Speaker C:

Because without love, you're not, you're not connected to your source.

Speaker C:

Because we're thinking beings, all of us, human beings.

Speaker C:

They're.

Speaker C:

They're designed to think.

Speaker C:

They have an evolved brain.

Speaker C:

There's a reason for that.

Speaker C:

Because if you don't think how things are going, how you're interacting with people, you don't understand the law of action and reaction.

Speaker C:

You can call it, I don't want to say retribution, but the law of karma, let's say.

Speaker C:

Because it can also be very positive.

Speaker C:

If you do lots of good, then you get lots of good back as well.

Speaker C:

And love, it just, it binds everyone in their own orbit in such a way that evolves everyone and doesn't create negation or fear or worry or lack of.

Speaker C:

Love is a state of abundance.

Speaker C:

It's a state of generosity.

Speaker C:

It's a state of happiness.

Speaker C:

We have a bliss molecule in our brain called anandamide.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker C:

Which every human being has.

Speaker C:

Ananda means bliss from again, Sanskrit word.

Speaker A:

If.

Speaker C:

Why would you have a bliss molecule in your brain if you were not meant to be happy?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Is that one of my.

Speaker B:

Maybe one of the more niche things I know about yoga or the whole sort of realm is when you.

Speaker B:

I think it's Joe Dispenser.

Speaker B:

Do you know.

Speaker B:

Have you heard of Joe Dispenza?

Speaker B:

I'm not.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Maybe it's not completely relevant or aligned, but this thing that he talks about where you tense your like.

Speaker C:

Yeah, Anandamide.

Speaker C:

The good thing about anandamide is that you don't have to do anything complicated to release it into your bloodstream.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker C:

It's actually our method that we're gonna show you today.

Speaker C:

Hopefully we'll do it for you.

Speaker C:

And it's very simple.

Speaker C:

It's very soft, it's very gentle.

Speaker C:

You don't need to do anything complicated or tense your diaphragm or worry about your clavicles or worry about your belly breathing.

Speaker C:

You don't have to worry about any of that.

Speaker A:

Okay, right.

Speaker B:

Well, before we get into that, because I'm very, very excited to get into that, let's talk.

Speaker B:

I've been looking through your LinkedIn and there's some interesting sort of posts and things that you've liked and stuff.

Speaker B:

What is the importance of breath in.

Speaker B:

You were speaking about the things that you breathe in.

Speaker B:

And I've always maintained the idea that breath is one of the most fundamental aspects of who we are.

Speaker B:

If you look at, think of any emotional state that we get in, our breathing changes.

Speaker B:

It is like the bedrock of our existence.

Speaker B:

So how significant is the breath and then how does it link into what you are doing?

Speaker C:

That's a beautiful question.

Speaker C:

I'm glad you asked it.

Speaker C:

I'm glad you asked it.

Speaker C:

Because if you look from a bird's eye view, it's not talked enough, nearly enough about in, in society or in the school system where it should be taught from the beginning.

Speaker C:

We can live for 40 days without food, we can live for four days without water, less than four minutes without breath.

Speaker C:

Unless you've developed, you know, sufficient lung capacity, but that still you're going to be struggling.

Speaker C:

So breath is not what you think it is.

Speaker C:

People think it's air or oxygen.

Speaker C:

That that's a very, very small part of it.

Speaker C:

The truth is, if you want the direct truth from the pedantic yoga philosophy, which is cosmological in nature, which is universal in effect, it influences everybody the same.

Speaker C:

So the three constituents of air, this space that we see around us, it's not oxygen, it's light, electricity and magnetism.

Speaker C:

Light, electricity and magnetism.

Speaker B:

So explain those three things.

Speaker C:

Yeah, it's all around us, so you can't perceive it with your senses.

Speaker C:

However, it's the very.

Speaker C:

If your breath powers all of your body, your brain, your mind, your organs and everything, then that means there's a.

Speaker C:

There's a power higher than what your senses perceive that is powering your whole body.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker C:

So the yoga tradition, light is hidden in the ether.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Electricity, electromagnetism is also hidden in the ether.

Speaker C:

And we know that electromagnetism is a fact because when they do aura photography, they can measure how far your light radiance extends from your body or not, as the case may be.

Speaker C:

Those who are very healthy have a very strong radiance about them.

Speaker B:

Is that physical health or emotional health?

Speaker C:

Both.

Speaker A:

Okay, Both.

Speaker C:

No one can live without this electromagnetic force.

Speaker C:

You are actually, as Joe Dispenza would also say, 90% of you, in fact, is electromagnetic and only 10% is flesh and bath.

Speaker B:

And by electromagnetic.

Speaker B:

God, science.

Speaker B:

I was not good at science.

Speaker B:

That's like a spectrum, isn't it?

Speaker B:

Electromagnetic spectrum.

Speaker B:

And that.

Speaker B:

Is that the spectrum that we can perceive or we can't perceive?

Speaker C:

You can feel it.

Speaker B:

You can feel it.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Like infrared.

Speaker B:

Infrared.

Speaker B:

Is that electromagnetic?

Speaker C:

Yeah, but you feel it more on an intuitional basis.

Speaker B:

Okay, that's what you mean.

Speaker C:

Deep feeling, gut feeling.

Speaker C:

You could go into that.

Speaker C:

So it's like when you meet someone and you have a funny feeling.

Speaker C:

I don't know what it is about this person.

Speaker C:

I'm not sure.

Speaker C:

It's usually you're picking up their electromagnetic energy, which contains their habits, their lifestyle, their thoughts, their emotions.

Speaker C:

So when you mix with someone who's got a bad habit, you feel maybe uneasy because it doesn't gel with you.

Speaker C:

And you're like, I don't like this.

Speaker C:

Meet happy people, you feel good.

Speaker C:

Abundant energy.

Speaker C:

You meet depressed people, makes you feel contracted.

Speaker B:

You know, people can SAP the energy out of you.

Speaker B:

And that's sort of along those lines.

Speaker B:

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker B:

Because we say that, don't we?

Speaker B:

We say the energy's been taken out of me.

Speaker B:

And you think, well, that doesn't really make sense because how can someone take in it?

Speaker B:

How can someone drain your energy?

Speaker B:

Exactly.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And I see.

Speaker B:

I see what you mean.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

So light.

Speaker C:

Sorry, sorry.

Speaker C:

No, it's okay.

Speaker C:

Light, electricity.

Speaker B:

No, no, you got.

Speaker C:

Magnetism is all about, as they say, birds of a feather flock together.

Speaker C:

So people of a light, kind of vibration.

Speaker C:

Vibe.

Speaker C:

Vibe is a very much used term nowadays.

Speaker C:

Vibe.

Speaker C:

Because they are literally vibrating at that same frequency or a similar frequency.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

So that's why those tend.

Speaker C:

Those people tend to stick together.

Speaker C:

Electromagnetism, magnetic force is there.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

The exhibiting similar frequencies and everything like that.

Speaker B:

I completely get behind that.

Speaker B:

And then so we've got magnetism, electricity.

Speaker B:

What was the third one?

Speaker C:

Light.

Speaker C:

Light, electricity, magnetism.

Speaker B:

So what is the light leaked in with the electromagnetic.

Speaker B:

What's the light?

Speaker C:

Yeah, the light is the very basis of everything.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

If you imagine you mean light as in like this light here or these.

Speaker C:

Lights behind me, it's a finer condensed light that you cannot see with your eyes.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker C:

But it exists.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker B:

There's a whole array of frequencies and spectrums that we can't see.

Speaker B:

That's very, very well known and evident and obvious.

Speaker B:

Like people.

Speaker B:

Duh.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So can we just.

Speaker B:

Before we get onto your breathing technique, can we.

Speaker B:

Can we do a bit more on yoga and, like, the practice of yoga, like I don't know.

Speaker B:

Maybe your knowledge is sort of niche in this field, but do you.

Speaker B:

Where did yoga originate from?

Speaker B:

And why has it manage to maintain generations and generations is quite key.

Speaker C:

That's a brilliant question.

Speaker C:

That is a brilliant question.

Speaker C:

And it ties into the depth and the breadth of knowledge from the Himalayan regions, from India, again, because if you look carefully, what's happening in society, certain word formations and meanings and symbolic meanings are being.

Speaker C:

Are weaving themselves into the English language.

Speaker C:

Without a doubt.

Speaker C:

Guru is from India again.

Speaker C:

Sanskrit, as we said.

Speaker C:

Avatar, Nirvana, Buddha, Buddhism, Guru, Yoga, all of these words, they are words that have very powerful meanings that will not change.

Speaker C:

They will not change.

Speaker C:

They're constants.

Speaker C:

They will always be in language because they're not subject to trends.

Speaker C:

They're per.

Speaker C:

And they.

Speaker B:

They also have.

Speaker B:

They're very broad terms, aren't they?

Speaker B:

They have universal terms.

Speaker C:

Correct.

Speaker B:

So that they.

Speaker B:

They cover many things.

Speaker B:

So is so widely understood now that it's sort of been extrapolated and translated out into many different contexts.

Speaker B:

And the same with avatar.

Speaker B:

So obviously they're so fundamental sort of truths that that's why they're so applicable in so many circumstances.

Speaker C:

Correct?

Speaker C:

Absolutely right.

Speaker C:

So in terms of the word yoga, yoga actually means union.

Speaker C:

To unite.

Speaker C:

To unite.

Speaker C:

So when you say to unite, you say to unite to what?

Speaker C:

Right, what do you.

Speaker C:

What do you want?

Speaker B:

To what end?

Speaker C:

Yeah, you know, is it.

Speaker C:

Is it Manchester United?

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Are we.

Speaker C:

What are we united to?

Speaker B:

Hopefully not at the moment.

Speaker B:

Hopefully we can do better than they're doing.

Speaker B:

Definitely very united.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

So to unite means to unite to your source.

Speaker B:

Okay, and what is our source?

Speaker B:

Because you said source a couple times.

Speaker C:

Yes.

Speaker B:

We're not talking ketchup, are we?

Speaker C:

No, no, exactly.

Speaker C:

Are you happy to go all out in the wording or is there a certain.

Speaker B:

Yeah, definitely.

Speaker B:

We've got.

Speaker B:

We've got loads of time.

Speaker A:

Perfect.

Speaker C:

Call it infinite intelligence, call it God, call it cosmic consciousness, call it divine Mother Nature or Mother Nature in her infinite variety of modes of expression.

Speaker C:

But most people would say go.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

So connect to your source means connecting to that higher intelligence that governs everything.

Speaker C:

So, yeah, that's what yoga fundamentally means.

Speaker B:

And the idea of union is that because the.

Speaker B:

This isn't actually my idea, I think that this is what I've heard from other people.

Speaker B:

But the point of yoga is that is the key word is alignment.

Speaker B:

So you try and get your body aligned with your spirit and your soul.

Speaker B:

And that based on what you just said, combining the two, the point of that is then to increase the Likelihood and your capacity to connect with the source by getting into that alignment.

Speaker C:

Correct, Exactly.

Speaker B:

Okay, that makes sense.

Speaker B:

That's quite a powerful thing.

Speaker B:

I can see why that's such a popular thing.

Speaker B:

So how does that link into the breathing and then the 3, 3 method that you're working on.

Speaker C:

Developing.

Speaker B:

Working on.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I don't know what the right word say there was Pondering.

Speaker B:

That's not a word.

Speaker B:

Is it maybe originating origin.

Speaker C:

Yeah, exactly, yeah, originating.

Speaker C:

It's continuing to develop and apply for more and more people.

Speaker C:

So people, you know, people are breathing all day, every day anyway.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker C:

But they don't necessarily know how to harness or to channel this energy in a way that benefits them to the optimum.

Speaker B:

That would be good.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

So we've been working with a lot of people with adhd, autism, insomnia, stress, anxiety, all these different mental afflictions that we have in this day and age.

Speaker C:

Whereas maybe 10 or 15 or 20 years ago, those things didn't seem to have.

Speaker A:

They were.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

So we start to ask, where's all this stuff coming from?

Speaker C:

And is there a single source or is it various sources?

Speaker C:

So when you use the breath and you start to access, and use the breath to access brain, chemical, brain, hormones, you begin to realize that there's this hidden, untapped power that can solve a lot of these problems for you.

Speaker C:

And because it's never been done quite this way, like the way we're doing it, no one has ever been able to do it this quickly and this easily before.

Speaker C:

So you have major hormones in the brain, endorphins, which relieve pain.

Speaker C:

It does a lot of other things as well.

Speaker C:

Not just that, but that's one of the main ones.

Speaker C:

Dopamine, which you've probably heard of, and serotonin are feel good, happy hormones.

Speaker C:

Anandamide is the bliss molecule that we talked about.

Speaker B:

And say it again, I really want to.

Speaker B:

I want to remember that.

Speaker B:

Anandamide.

Speaker C:

Anandamide, right.

Speaker B:

By the way, if you see me looking at my phone, it's because I'm looking through the questions that I've written down.

Speaker B:

It's not anything else.

Speaker B:

I should have said that right at the beginning.

Speaker B:

But now I'm going to write down anandamide.

Speaker C:

So ananda means bliss in Sanskrit.

Speaker C:

And then the mind, as well as unlocking those four neurotransmitters or brain chemicals, it also activates the vagus nerve.

Speaker C:

Are you familiar with that?

Speaker B:

I've heard of it.

Speaker B:

Isn't it just related?

Speaker B:

You see a lot of videos on YouTube that are like, how to reset your vagus nerve, things like that.

Speaker B:

Explain more.

Speaker C:

Yeah, so the vagus nerve is a very important part of the parasympathetic nervous system.

Speaker C:

So you have the sympathetic nervous system.

Speaker C:

When you're active, you're using adrenaline, cortisol, you know, you have freeze, fight, flight, but those kind of very strong action oriented, that kind of lifestyle or those kinds of activities.

Speaker C:

But then you also have the parasympathetic nervous system which helps you rest, digest, heal from pain, trauma, surgery, whatever it happens to be, also helps you sleep deeply.

Speaker C:

And if you don't have both, you're going to be, you're probably going to have a disease or some kind of imbalance or some kind of mental issue.

Speaker C:

Something's going to happen.

Speaker C:

If you don't get a balance of.

Speaker B:

Both, even if you don't have the negative one, even if you don't have parasympathetic.

Speaker B:

Is it.

Speaker B:

Parasympathetic is the, the fight or flight.

Speaker B:

So you don't need that sympathetic.

Speaker C:

Is the fight, freeze, fight, flight.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

Ironically.

Speaker B:

Yep, I should know that.

Speaker B:

So you need, you need an equal balance of both.

Speaker B:

And is it because without, without enough sympathetic nervous system action, you're more likely to run into like literal existential danger or is there actually health and potential drawbacks to not exhibiting enough of that?

Speaker B:

Which one is it?

Speaker C:

That is a great question.

Speaker C:

That is a fantastic question.

Speaker C:

When we look at a human being, we don't just separate them in parts, we look at the whole person.

Speaker C:

Because you have to understand that when you, you know, when you go to a hospital, you have separate departments for separate parts of the body.

Speaker C:

But in fact, end of the day you're one person, you're not separate people.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

So you have to use the parasympathetic nervous system to feel good.

Speaker C:

So as much as you're active, you need to take time to relax and digest and understand what's happening in your day and assess how it's going to, you shouldn't always have to any.

Speaker C:

Like in materialistic societies of the Western world, you know, America and the UK are big parts of that.

Speaker C:

Whereas go, go, go.

Speaker C:

If you're not busy, you're not a hero.

Speaker C:

If you're not busy, you're not worth anything.

Speaker C:

That's the kind of culture we have, grind culture.

Speaker C:

And it's not healthy.

Speaker C:

It really is not healthy at all.

Speaker B:

The there's.

Speaker B:

I work with a woman whose son has emigrated out to New Zealand and they spent like six weeks with him during Christmas and she came back and just said that the culture, literally what you just said there is completely different to, to the uk.

Speaker B:

They have a completely different way of life and outlook on life and, and working and things like that.

Speaker B:

And yeah, I think it's completely accurate.

Speaker B:

The, the consumerism society that we've developed in the west has very, very many drawbacks and obviously the superficial advantages, but a lot of significant, deep drawbacks.

Speaker B:

And yeah, that, that doesn't surprise me at all.

Speaker B:

I completely agree with what you're saying.

Speaker B:

Anyway, carry on.

Speaker B:

That was a little interruption.

Speaker C:

Oh, no, no problem at all.

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The Breaking Point Podcast
Embrace Who You Could Be
We all have our breaking points, moments where we feel lost, stuck, or as if the world isn’t delivering what we hoped for, whether it’s a career disappointment, a personal crisis, or just the quiet ache of wondering, 'What next?'—The Breaking Point Podcast addresses it all.

Each episode brings raw, real stories from people who’ve hit rock bottom and climbed back up, exploring the complexities of modern life, the human moments of real struggle and the subsequent breakthroughs that followed. Packed with candid conversations, practical tools, and fresh perspectives, we dive into what it takes to move past our personal sticking points, rediscover our purpose, and rewrite our story.

Tune in to The Breaking Point Podcast for inspiration, honesty, and a reminder that your breaking point might just be the start of something new and better!

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