Harmonising The Mind, Body and Spirit (Healing Breathwork & Consciousness)
In Part 1 of this episode of The Breaking Point podcast, we are joined by Sravann Alopi, a seasoned Reiki and breathwork master with a lifelong dedication to these transformative practices.
We delve into the fascinating realms of energy healing, mindfulness, and quantum consciousness.
Reiki is a Japanese art form that harnesses the power of pranic energy, your inner life force, to promote well-being, mental clarity, and emotional stability. By channelling energy through the hands and working with the body's energy centres, or chakras, Reiki helps combat anxiety, stress, and mental health issues. It has also been integrated into modern medicine, with case studies showing its benefits in palliative care and post-surgery recovery.
Sravann's journey into Reiki began at a young age, influenced by his mother, a Reiki master who remarkably reversed her aggressive leukaemia diagnosis through Reiki, mindfulness exercises, and breathwork. At 18, Sravann was attuned to Reiki and has since become a master practitioner, connecting with the astral plane and channelling information through deep meditative states.
Breathwork is a crucial component of Sravann's practice, emphasizing the role of breath in governing one's life. By controlling the breath, one can manage anxiety, stress, and emotional states. This is aligned with the teachings of Joe Dispenza, who discusses the importance of harmonizing and synchronizing breath to achieve a state of unity and alignment. This alignment allows individuals to tap into higher states of consciousness and access alternate timelines through quantum jumping. This concept involves tapping into parallel universes to acquire new skills or knowledge, such as speaking a new language fluently.
The pineal gland plays a significant role in this process, associated with creativity, connection, and grounding. Opening up the pineal gland through deep meditative states allows individuals to access information and skills from alternate versions of themselves, facilitating personal growth and spiritual evolution.
Alignment means bringing the mind, body, and spirit together in unity, a concept rooted in the idea that the universe is one song. When we align our frequencies with this unity, anything becomes possible. This is achieved through harmonizing and synchronizing the breath, which governs our ability to respond or react to the world around us. By controlling the breath, we can maintain the mind field, emotional state, and whether we enter fight or flight, reactive or responsive modes.
CHAPTERS:
00:00 Introduction to Reiki and Personal Journey
02:53 Understanding Reiki and Its Benefits
05:45 The Role of Breath and Mindfulness
09:08 Meditation Techniques and Their Impact
12:00 The Connection Between Breath and Emotional State
14:50 Transcendental Meditation and Its Philosophy
18:08 The Importance of Facing Inner Darkness
20:59 The Path to Enlightenment and Healing
Transcript
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Speaker A:Welcome back to another episode of the Breaking Point podcast.
Speaker A:Today we are here with Sravan Alu.
Speaker A:Alopi.
Speaker A:Correct.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So I'm a Reiki and breathwork master.
Speaker B:I've been, I've been doing that since the age of 18.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But I've, I've had, let's just say, a pretty extensive lifelong career with many parts that have intersected along.
Speaker A:Perfect.
Speaker A:We like that.
Speaker A:So for anyone that doesn't know, and that is including me, what actually is Reiki.
Speaker B:So Reiki is essentially using energy, using energy within the body.
Speaker B:Another form that, that, you know, some people within the wellbeing space might be familiar with is like pranic energy.
Speaker B:And your pranic energy is essentially your inner life force.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So Reiki is a Japanese art form that once attuned through taking the courses, you learn how to channel energy through the, through the hands, through the palms, and you work with the, you know, the energy centers, otherwise known as chakras, to help bring about a sense of well being, mental clarity, emotional stability, help you combat things such as anxiety, stress, mental health.
Speaker B:And there's even been case studies now that are coming to the fore where Reiki has helped people with their physiological conditions.
Speaker B:Like, even with the nhs, they actually have like an active sort of like roll call where they're looking to bring in Reiki masters to help people who are in palliative care or people who've just had like, you know, a really traumatic surgery to help ease their symptoms, work in line with modern day medicine.
Speaker A:And why did you get into Reiki?
Speaker B:I'll be honest with you, I was born into it.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:My mom.
Speaker B:Yeah, my, my mother kind of like runs in the, in the family sort of type of deal.
Speaker B:My, my mum was a Reiki master.
Speaker B:Funny story actually is before we moved over to the uk, my mom was diagnosed with an aggressive form of leukemia.
Speaker B:And the doctor said that she has like, literally like six months to live.
Speaker B:So, you know, get your affairs in order because you're gonna die.
Speaker B:My mom, being the warrior that she is, was like, well, you know, screw that, I'm going to do something about this because I'm also not about to leave my only child in the world just, you know, stranded.
Speaker B:And so she, she learned Reiki through a lady that taught her in South Africa.
Speaker B:And she started to apply this along with mindfulness exercises, breath work, and she, she reversed the leukemia.
Speaker B:She completely cured herself of it.
Speaker B:So much so to the point where modern science couldn't comprehend that, you know, and there might Be some people here who think, like, what the hell?
Speaker B:Like, how could you do that?
Speaker B:Literally through your breath and your mind.
Speaker B:But I think as we progress through this.
Speaker B:This podcast, people will understand just how important and how powerful it actually is.
Speaker B:But, yeah, she.
Speaker B:She basically broke that, right?
Speaker B:She broke that chain.
Speaker B:And she was a teacher.
Speaker B:She was an English teacher.
Speaker B:How I got involved in Reiki was.
Speaker B:Well, essentially as I was growing up, you know, growing up around it, I realized that I also had the ability to sort of feel the frequencies, the energetic feels of people and also pick up, you know, I pick up on her vibes, as other people would say.
Speaker B:You know, you just pick up on a certain vibe.
Speaker B:That vibe tells you something.
Speaker B:So it's a bit rudimentary, but, you know, I don't want to scramble anyone's brains just yet.
Speaker B:And I also learned how to essentially, like, connect.
Speaker B:You know, we call it connecting to the astral plane, or mediums, et cetera.
Speaker B:We'll call it as channeling.
Speaker B:So when you open up your state of consciousness to quite literally pull information and just deliver it as if.
Speaker B:Well, it is just fact.
Speaker B:You know, it's because you're in a completely different states of being.
Speaker B:So, yeah, I.
Speaker B:I got.
Speaker B:I got like, really into Reiki when I was 18.
Speaker B:For my 18th birthday, my mom actually put me through the Reiki 1, 2, 3 and Master course.
Speaker B:I got attuned, which is like a little initiation which you have to do by, you know, doing a meditation, and then you get infused essentially with like, the crystals that have the Reiki symbols in them.
Speaker B:And so, yeah, that's how I essentially became a Reiki practitioner Master.
Speaker A:And that's really interesting.
Speaker A:I didn't.
Speaker A:I had a rough sort of idea of what Reiki was, but I.
Speaker A:When I.
Speaker A:I have a slight little linkage to that, personally.
Speaker A:When I was younger and I was suffering from, like, awful anxiety, I went to see a guy who did, what you call him.
Speaker A:What was it when you stick needles in people?
Speaker A:I've forgotten the name.
Speaker B:Like, acupuncture.
Speaker A:Acupuncture, yeah.
Speaker A:But it was acupressure.
Speaker A:And he was speaking about, like, the meridian pathways, and he was.
Speaker A:He would sort of go around and massage the points of my bodies, and it was actually really cathartic and helpful.
Speaker A:And then as I've gotten older and I went down the path of meditation, which I absolutely recommend profusely, I sort of came across the chakras and.
Speaker A:And the.
Speaker A:And things like the.
Speaker A:The pineal gland.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:You were referencing to your sort of forehead and Pointing up.
Speaker A:Is the pineal gland involved in that sort of elevating process?
Speaker A:Upwards channeling one?
Speaker B:Yeah, 100%.
Speaker B:So are you familiar with Joe Dispenza?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Do you know this name?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So a lot of Joe Dispenza's work.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well, the reason why I mention him is because he.
Speaker B:All his work with, you know, like, robotic affirmations with the concept of harmonizing and synchronizing your breath.
Speaker B:He also does, like, he talks about.
Speaker B:Excuse me, this concept of quantum jumping.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Which is essentially, let's say, like, hypothetically, you wanted to learn Russian.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker B:But you.
Speaker B:You don't know it right?
Speaker B:Now, in this paradigm, in this sort of like, state of being, the state of consciousness that you're in essentially within.
Speaker B:Within each parallel paradigm, if we reference, you know, marvel a little bit like the multiverse, you have alternate timelines of alternate versions of you, variations of you that do exist out there.
Speaker B:And you can tap into that by doing what's known as a quantum jump.
Speaker B:And in order to do that, you need to, again, bring your breath, body, and mind to a point of singularity, which allows you to open up the pineal gland to tap into that frequency.
Speaker B:So you could literally be in a deep form of, I guess call like a meditative state.
Speaker B:You would jump to the timeline where you speak fluent Russian, jump back, open your eyes, and you can just be like, you know, like spasiba.
Speaker B:You know, all that stuff just rattle off as if you've spoken, as if it's your mother tongue.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And there are people out there.
Speaker B:There's case studies of people who have done this.
Speaker B:You know, even on YouTube, there are people who are actively talking about this.
Speaker B:So, yes, it.
Speaker B:It references the pineal gland, because that is essentially the front cortex or the.
Speaker B:Yeah, the frontal cortex.
Speaker B:That has to do with everything regarding creativity, connection, and a sense of, like, also grounding.
Speaker B:So, like, Reiki is a very grounding energy.
Speaker B:Just to quickly brush over what you mentioned about how you, you know, you suffered from anxiety, a lot of the reasons why we feel anxiety is because we're not grounded.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And so we use Reiki as a tool to help ground the energy that's coursing through our body.
Speaker B:So that way it's not just, like, dispersing everywhere.
Speaker B:It's now central.
Speaker B:And you're able to.
Speaker B:You're able to just be a bit more streamlined when you.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:You mentioned you have to bring, like, the mind, body, and the breath into.
Speaker A:Into like a unity, into like A1, A.
Speaker A:How do you go about achieving that.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And B, what.
Speaker A:What's the significance?
Speaker A:Why does everything have to be in line, so to speak?
Speaker A:Do you know why?
Speaker B:Well, we call.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So the term alignment literally means just, you know, bringing everything in line with one another.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Let me sort of.
Speaker B:Without going on too much of a tangent, that's fine.
Speaker B:So when, when, when, when we meditate, right?
Speaker B:Often when we meditate, you know, there's a sound called om.
Speaker B:Especially the people who like to make fun of, you know, the hippie dippy, woo woo, like meditation bros who be like om.
Speaker B:But what they actually don't seem to realize is that om is a sound, right?
Speaker B:Aum is a, is a sound that derives from Sanskrit, which is the language of sounds.
Speaker B:And the word or the sound and the frequency of aum means unity, right?
Speaker B:Another.
Speaker B:Another term for unity is also like the universe.
Speaker B:The universe is one song.
Speaker B:Alignment means to be part of the one song.
Speaker B:So when you bring mind, body and spirit together, unity of one song, your frequency as a human vibrates on a level where quite literally anything is possible.
Speaker B:So Joe Dispenza talks about how we, this current state of plane, this world that we're living in right now, is the.
Speaker B:Is the third dimension, the 3D.
Speaker B:He teaches people how to tap into the 4D.
Speaker B:The 4D is where literally all your thoughts, all your, you know, affirmations, your manifestations, all that stuff is reality.
Speaker B:It's there, it's yours, right?
Speaker B:You know, you might see like a lot of, like these, like these like IG pages that talk about spirituality.
Speaker B:They'll talk about, you know, say it, claim it, you know, angel numbers, all that stuff, like it does exist.
Speaker B:It has become a little bit gimmicky because a lot of people just approach it on a very surface level.
Speaker B:But what I mean with alignment is when you can get your mind, your body and your like, spirit, the soul together in alignment to create that singularity, anything is possible.
Speaker B:And the way in which you do that is by harmonizing and synchronizing your breath.
Speaker B:Because the breath is the vessel that literally governs everything in your life.
Speaker B:If you just think about it, when it comes to your ability to, to operate as a human being, to think, to, to sort of understand whether you enter a state of fight or flight, whether you are responsive or reactive to the world around you, is all governed by your breath.
Speaker B:You cannot, like, like this podcast, for example, I cannot determine what the next words of your mouth are going to be.
Speaker B:Cannot determine, you know, whether, for example, you know, touchwood, it doesn't happen.
Speaker B:But, like, there might be a power cut midway through this.
Speaker B:Through this podcast cannot determine whether I might get an important phone call or you might get a phone call or whatever it is.
Speaker B:But what we can control is whether we choose to respond or react to the stimulus of the world.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Which is through our breath.
Speaker B:Because when you can control the breath, we can also control the minefield.
Speaker B:When we can control the mindfield, we can control the emotional state of our being.
Speaker B:And when we control the emotional state of our being, we are also in control of whether we enter fight or flight, reactive.
Speaker B:Reactive or respond.
Speaker B:And that then shifts our paradigm on how we look at the world.
Speaker B:Because this world that we live in is just a reflection of what's happening inside.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, No, I wasn't.
Speaker B:That was a lot.
Speaker A:No, no, no, no.
Speaker B:It just kind of went off in the deep end.
Speaker A:No, absolutely.
Speaker A:I want that because it gives me more.
Speaker A:More to go off.
Speaker A:I completely agree.
Speaker A:And you're completely right about the idea that the breath is the root of, like, the human experience itself.
Speaker A:It's any situation, any state of being that you can imagine that particularly ones that are sort of charged emotionally or physically, there is an alteration to the breath and the.
Speaker A:The length and the.
Speaker A:The depth of.
Speaker A:Of breath.
Speaker A:And when.
Speaker A:When we.
Speaker A:When we panic, when we feel excited, the.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:It's kind of like.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:What is it?
Speaker A:It's almost the physical manifestation of, like, the heartbeat.
Speaker A:So when people say they get anxious, it actually.
Speaker A:It actually never really affected me when I was growing up, to be fair.
Speaker A:But people would often complain that their heartbeat was really bumpy and not bumping.
Speaker A:What's the word?
Speaker A:Beating.
Speaker A:And it would really.
Speaker A:It would distress them, the fact that their heartbeat was going fast.
Speaker A:I never really cared about my heartbeat going fast.
Speaker A:I think a lot of people, it.
Speaker A:They think they're going to have a heart attack, which is kind of like the textbook agrophobias.
Speaker A:Agoraphobics.
Speaker A:Worry is they're going to have a heart attack in front of everyone, embarrass themselves and die.
Speaker A:Which makes sense because that's kind of like the two universal human fears.
Speaker A:Every single fear that we have as humans sort of spans off from those two.
Speaker A:Dying in pain.
Speaker A:Not even pain, just dying and social humiliation.
Speaker A:So, yeah, that was my little tangent when I.
Speaker A:A few years ago, I did this, like, course in meditation, in Transcendental meditation.
Speaker A:Have you heard of it?
Speaker B:Transcendental.
Speaker A:Transcendental meditation.
Speaker B:Oh, can't say I have.
Speaker A:So just because you brought up the.
Speaker A:The idea of the frequency, I thought that was really, really interesting.
Speaker A:It's kind of related, but with Transcendental meditation you get given a.
Speaker A:A mantra.
Speaker A:Is that the word?
Speaker A:Yeah, mantra.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:That you say internally.
Speaker A:And the idea, this is slightly more sort of psychological than.
Speaker A:Than frequency based, but it's probably kind of related.
Speaker A:The idea is that as you say the mantra, your.
Speaker A:I don't know if it's your focus, but your point of consciousness drifts lower and lower down the psyche.
Speaker A:And what that process does is it brings other things up to the surface.
Speaker A:So I don't know if you've ever told someone about meditating and the first thing they've gone is the first response there is, I can't meditate because I can't stop thinking whilst I'm doing it.
Speaker A:So I'm really bad.
Speaker A:So I don't want to do it all in hobby.
Speaker A:Everyone.
Speaker A:That's what, that's what everyone says, isn't it?
Speaker A:And it's like standard response.
Speaker A:It is the standard response.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:It's like, no, you don't get it, Tom.
Speaker B:That's your response too, man.
Speaker B:Is it?
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:I've not heard of a shot at Tom.
Speaker B:I was like, he says he can't.
Speaker B:And I was like, bro, you 100% can.
Speaker B:Yeah, everybody can.
Speaker B:It's just you don't have the.
Speaker B:Your focal point is off.
Speaker B:That's what it is.
Speaker A:Yeah, well, it, it's.
Speaker A:It's also the, the.
Speaker A:The if.
Speaker A:When a shark can't stop swimming because it dies.
Speaker A:So the, the brain can't stop thinking because it's a thinking machine.
Speaker A:So you, you, anyone, the.
Speaker A:It's false advertising.
Speaker A:People that out there that are telling you, I don't even know where it comes from because I don't think anyone that's sort of espoused meditation has said, you're not meant to think.
Speaker A:I don't know where that.
Speaker A:I think because the idea is stillness and people want to achieve the stillness and you can't include that with the thoughts.
Speaker B:100%.
Speaker B:I'm sorry, I don't mean to just kind of like send her so good.
Speaker A:But I won't interrupt.
Speaker B:It's just like the thought, the thought just came to my mind.
Speaker B:It's because, again, most people operate in the world on a very like, superficial level, right?
Speaker B:It's not, it's not to take a shot at anyone, but it's just because if you don't have the knowledge, right, when you do get a piece of knowledge, that.
Speaker B:That basically invites you to critically think.
Speaker B:People take that and then they kind of like make it their own.
Speaker B:Like, they, they, they make it, they make it so they fit their own narrative.
Speaker B:So like, I know, for example, like when I was first getting into meditation, the concept of stillness to me was to like just visualize like black, black, like the void, nothingness, and then like one flickering flame.
Speaker B:And I realized like, while there are also meditations where people tell you to do that, that's not actually what you should be focusing on because the mind is going to be thinking about other things because as you said, it's like a thinking machine.
Speaker B:Another thing I wanted to just kind of go over is everything you explained just now about this trans transcendental meditation.
Speaker B:Am I saying that correctly?
Speaker B:Yeah, it, it, as you explained it, I was like, okay, I know, I know what this is.
Speaker B:So I, when I do my, my guided meditations with people, I, I use a.
Speaker B:Again, it's, it's, it's a bit of like a NLP technique called anchoring.
Speaker A:Yeah, right.
Speaker B:It's also, you'd also use very effectively in EMDR therapy.
Speaker B:So the concept of what you explained was you have a, you have a single, like a single focal point.
Speaker B:And as you go, as you sort of like meditate and focus more on it, it goes lower, lower into the psyche.
Speaker B:Basically.
Speaker B:You want to take that thought and almost like root it right into like where your navel is, which is where the solar plexus is.
Speaker B:That is a chakra that governs the seat of power, self worth, integrity, gut instinct.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:This is where manifestation takes place.
Speaker B:This is where, you know, we change our like, default states of being.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And when things come up to the surface again, that's where we're anchoring.
Speaker B:And now we're lifting, you know, like the debris of like, stress.
Speaker B:You know, I don't really like to use this word because it does get thrown a.
Speaker B:Around a lot.
Speaker B:But like genuine trauma.
Speaker B:Yeah, genuine and trauma from limiting self beliefs, you know?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, dude, we Unagi, bro, unagi.
Speaker B:But yeah, it's like when the paradigm, when, when the paradigm is, you know, old and whatever and you're now starting to anchor something new.
Speaker B:I mean, it's just common sense, you know?
Speaker B:Yeah, it's like the laws of physics determine like, what goes up must come down.
Speaker B:Therefore, if you're pushing something new down to the, to like the depths of your being, whatever was down there now needs to come up because it's being replaced.
Speaker B:And so that's, that's also like a massive part of meditation.
Speaker B:Like, lots of people think that meditation is just about like doing this and being Zen.
Speaker B:No, a lot of meditation is, can also be quite painful because you have to dive deep.
Speaker B:You have to also make the realizations like, oh, the reason why I'm chronically late for work is because I have this limiting belief system that I'm not worthy.
Speaker B:Therefore, no matter how early I wake up in the morning, no matter how well prepared I might be, I might pack everything the night before.
Speaker B:I will find a way.
Speaker B:I will spend an extra 15 minutes in the shower just procrastinating.
Speaker B:I will, I will convince myself that I have time to make myself breakfast when I have like, you know, 30 minutes before I need to catch my bus or my train or whatever it is.
Speaker B:By the way, speaking, this is all like personal experience here, right?
Speaker B:It's like I will convince myself that, oh yeah, I can definitely do that and then get pissed off when I miss the train or now realize I have five minutes to make up for an eight minute walk.
Speaker B:So I'm now sprinting.
Speaker B:I'm now in the state of like, fight or flight.
Speaker B:I'm now activated to.
Speaker B:I'm just activated nonstop.
Speaker B:And then I just barely get into work by the skin of my teeth.
Speaker B:Oh, I'm late.
Speaker B:And then it's just like, oh, well, I'm always late because, well, you know, the train was late and my alarm didn't go off when I programmed it too.
Speaker B:And it's like, man, this is just nonsense.
Speaker B:Like, you have to understand, like a lot of meditation is just, quite frankly, just realizing that we are the own villains of our story.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But then it's, it's, it's in doing so that we now are able to evoke a sense of peace.
Speaker B:Because, because there's also tremendous power in understanding that.
Speaker B:It's like, oh, okay, so I'm actually the one that's in control of my life.
Speaker B:I'm just doing it in a way that's not giving me the results that I want.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And so that, yeah, transcendental, I mean, yeah, it kind of makes sense because this meditation would be focused on transcending the self.
Speaker A:Yes, to be fair, that makes, that makes complete sense.
Speaker A:That's probably what it is.
Speaker A:It's the transcending of the self into something higher, which will be why, yeah, you are Carl Jung.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:I don't know if you know who Carl Jung was.
Speaker A:The famous psychologist.
Speaker A:Have you heard of him?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:He's someone you should look at a.
Speaker B:Lot of a Lot of deep dark stuff there, man.
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he was always definitely not like.
Speaker B:Yeah, not like reading before you go to bed.
Speaker A:No, no, it's not.
Speaker A:It's not like light reading, but it's worthy reading definitely, if you're interested in that sort of thing.
Speaker B:A hundred percent, definitely.
Speaker A:He was always of the belief that self enlightenment was not achieved through the path of following your bliss, so to speak, but it was the exact opposite.
Speaker A:It was actually to achieve enlightenment you have to go to the darkest places of your mind and of your soul that you can possibly imagine.
Speaker A:And you could have and.
Speaker A:Yeah, and you had, you know, you.
Speaker A:There was a.
Speaker A:I think there was some initiation.
Speaker A:I can't remember exactly who it was for.
Speaker A:And it was prehistoric.
Speaker A:And this is very much secondhand.
Speaker A:Well, sort of third hand, tertiary recounting I'm about to give you.
Speaker A:I don't even know where it's from, but I remember the premise.
Speaker A:Anyway, the point was it was some sort of initiation with like knights or something.
Speaker A:And what they had to do is they had to find a cave and they had to find the cave that they believed was the darkest cave to them specifically.
Speaker A:And they then had to go into that cave and spend like however long.
Speaker A:And the key was, is the sort of the specific, the, the.
Speaker A:The salient point of that was that it had to be the darkest to them.
Speaker A:It was what.
Speaker A:And it's the same with sort of fear and anxiety.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker A:We're all individual, individualistic and sort of.
Speaker A:It's all unique to us.
Speaker A:So you have to.
Speaker A:The deeper the, the wound, the.
Speaker A:I don't know how you finish that sort of.
Speaker A:I'm trying to make some sort of quick philosophical point, but it's not gonna work.
Speaker A:It doesn't work.
Speaker B:You got it, man.
Speaker A:Yeah, the.
Speaker A:You got it, you got it, you got it.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:Oh, I did read this quote the other day.
Speaker A:I think it was from Rumi, who was like a 13th century poet on Chesgpt.
Speaker A:Actually.
Speaker B:He said, I love roomy stuff.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:He said the light enters the point at which the wound opens or something along those lines.
Speaker A:In other words.
Speaker A:Yes, the healing begins.
Speaker A:The genesis of the healing is where you've been attacked.
Speaker A:Which I thought was really interesting.
Speaker A:Anyway, what were we talking about before I went.
Speaker A:What we.
Speaker A:What did you just say?
Speaker A:What were we talking about going.
Speaker A:Yeah, enlightenment and how.
Speaker A:It's not point following your glyphs, it's actually the complete opposite.
Speaker A:Man's got 48 laws of power on his bed.
Speaker B:Yes, I do.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Kind of diving deep with all that.
Speaker A:Yeah, sorry.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker B:That should help a little bit.
Speaker B:I apologize for that.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's perfect.
Speaker B:I don't want to, like.
Speaker B:Yeah, but, yeah, no, 100%, man.
Speaker B:And, you know, it's funny you should mention that, because.
Speaker A:So we.
Speaker B:We mentioned this also in, like, the podcasting call before when we met, and, like, Tom.
Speaker B:Tom just kind of like.
Speaker B:Just kind of like, just like, big me up there, recite that guy.
Speaker B:I have tremendous love for that.
Speaker B:For that dude, honestly.
Speaker A:Good.
Speaker B:But he also mentioned before I stepped into this field more, I was a medic in the army for the best part of a decade.
